been there, seen the movie, bought the t-shirt - done all three!
still cringe at how i viewed the corporation's teachings as sacrosanct.
bite the bullet lurkers - treat your gangrenous thinking and begin your recovery.
Been there, seen the movie, bought the t-shirt - done all three!
Still cringe at how I viewed the Corporation's teachings as sacrosanct.
Bite the bullet lurkers - treat your gangrenous thinking and begin your recovery.
Stop being treated like a monkey by the Corporation.
hello, this is my first post, i would like to introduce myself and say thank you to every one on this forum, you have been a lifeline to me these last few years.. i had been a jw for 30 years when i walked away a few years ago disgusted by the treatment victims of child abuse, domestic abuse and rape receive from the wtbts.. at first i thought it was a local problem, elders personal opinions, the way they handled the situations, imperfect men etc., until i checked out jehovahs witnesses and child abuse/domestic abuse online.
that's when i realized they had the same modus operandi worldwide.
that led me here, tbuo this forum, and then to crisis of conscience, jw facts, watchtower documents, jw survey, old watchtower literature and cd s, reading a couple of steve hassans books, and more recently exiting the jw cult.. the feelings of shock, betrayal, anger at the wtbts, angry with myself for being so gullible, depression, reflection, loneliness, have taken their toll.
so i haven't been to a midweek meeting in some time.... but i must attend this first clam (not to be confused with 'klan') meeting.
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want to take a look for curiosity sake then go back to never attending another midweek meeting again.
C.L.A.M.
In the U.K. we used to have a chocolate bar called "Marathon". It was rebranded as "Snickers".
Same product, different wording.
C.L.A.M. = Ministry School & Service Meeting + added videos.
Corporation Lies And Mind-numbing.
recent developments make me think they might be.
the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.
one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.
Not only the Organization, but also an awful lot of J.W.'s themselves!
When the Corporation's "maximising of auditorium capacity" gets into full swing, (the self-proclaimed "Master Plan") just sit back and watch the average J.W.'s reaction to their K.H. being sold off, and having to travel to a more distant location to worship the Magnificent 7 on the big screens.
a month from custody trial for my little girl.
i fight the anxiety every moment.
reading all of your posts has, i believe, kept me from losing it.
The paedophilia lawsuits are going to seriously damage the CORPORATION's finances in two ways:
1) all of the legal and reparation costs involved in defending/settling claims, and 2) J.W.'s reducing/ceasing their contributions, due to their realising the purpose of Brooklyn's constant begging for cash.
The contraction of the Corporation will continue unabated.
the majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.
upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.
again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.
Many ex or present J.W.'s come here looking for some kind of encouragement, comfort, reassurance that they're not alone in the world, having abandoned the CORPORATION, so intolerance and ridicule of their sincere Bible beliefs may give them the feeling of having jumped from the frying pan into the fire.
Vitriol will never encourage an open and respectful discussion, and will only add to a person's cult-induced traumas.
in the new "our christian life and ministry" workbook for j.w.
's, (which replaces the kingdom ministry) see if you can find every reference to the name of jesus and the motive for using it!
yup, the corporation is certainly living up to and promoting the name of jesus christ, and "proving" to the world that they are indeed a christian religion - not!.
hello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.
helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.
i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.
Thank you Umbertoecho. Your courage and your determination to get justice, are beautiful to discern.
You are precious to so many people who have come to know you.
i will be sending a letter to all my siblings in the next couple of weeks, and wanted everyone's take on it.
the primary purpose of this letter is to pave the way for a limited relationship.
i want to invite them to my son's celebration for finishing his leukemia treatment.
Just my personal viewpoint - based on what my own J.W. family's reaction to your wording would be.
An editing of your letter:
"I hope this correspondence finds you all well. I'm writing here to reach out for a relationship with my family. I love you all, I worry about you, and want nothing but the best for you as I am sure you feel the same for me. I believe we are all grown up enough to show respect for one another as human beings. Kids after all are only kids once in their life.
I was hoping my children could have relationships with Aunts, and Uncles that I was not privileged to have growing up. Much of this due to petty differences between our parents and their siblings. I now know where that judgmentalism stems from. I know you all have your opinions about what happened with my family. You are likely partially correct. Almost losing Adin to leukemia played a large part.
All of this being said I value peace as well, and hope we can all continue to be family. I have waited to write all of you until Adins treatment neared it's completion. As I am planning a party to celebrate the completion of his treatment that I would like you all to attend.
I respectfully request that you keep this within our immediate family so as not to further harm our Mom, Me, Ruthy, and My Children. The only grandparent my children can have a relationship with. I am not my child's owner just a steward."
Sometimes less is more! I hope you achieve your goal, and have a wonderful family celebration.
i have been lurking on this site for 3 years and this is my fist post.
i would like to thank everyone for helping me wake up.
i was baptized at 24, married at 25, ms for 18 years mentally in for 24 years but started to wake up 3 years ago doing research to give public talks, and the actions of arrogant and narcissistic brothers and sisters did not help.
Welcome Simple Minds. Your story is a sad one - but your life can only improve now that you're awakened. Basically you are at a fork in the road; you can either send such a letter to the elders, or employ the adage, "Least said, soonest mended."
My personal choice is the latter, because if you give the wolves a bone, they'll never let it go!
I'd never put anything in writing to the elders. Why give them such ammunition? I would be polite and reasonable by personally thanking one of the elders who wants to visit me, and briefly state that "due to private & personal concerns which I'm having to deal with, I'd rather not have the shepherding call at present, and that the offer is appreciated. If things change, I'll let you know."
A person's information & thinking are what these vampires thrive on. Why volunteer to give them what they need?
I wish you well with the wedding, and with your choices when dealing with the "ravenous wolves."
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/428170001/fading-beginners-guide
p.s. Do you think that the elders' wives will not hear about any of the details you put in your letter? Take care.
